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By Kevin Dobbs

Montclair Advisors, LLC

Now that many software companies really feel that the risks associated with a second recession are firmly in the rearview mirror, it now seems like everyone is looking to grow their businesses.

I read a great post yesterday by Bruce Cleveland at InterWest Ventures about the Value of Growth for SaaS Companies, which I thought really accurately captured a challenge that many software firms face when transitioning to a SaaS model.   This is a subject that is near and dear to me given my background as a reformed marketing executive and someone who was responsible lead generation at Oracle years ago during the Tom Siebel and Marc Benioff era.   I think it was Tom Siebel when he was running Oracle’s inside sales team that told me “I want it to rain leads from the sky!” At the time I was actually shocked because he was asking me to literally drown his sales team with qualified opportunities who wanted to buy Oracle’s database products.

As I have come to learn that he knew exactly what he was talking about and his track record demonstrates that productive sales teams deliver amazing revenue growth results.  Bruce’s post highlights that a SaaS company without meaningful growth is not worth very much and probably will fetch the low-end of the valuation curve, which is still pretty good in today’s crazy market (See last week’s post about the SaaS Bubble).   So how are high flying SaaS companies like Salesforce and SuccessFactors achieving CAGR’s in excess of 30% every year?   Check out this chart I put together on some of the leading publicly traded SaaS firms (sans Salesforce because they will skew the chart):

As you can see the companies with the higher growth rates are also the ones that have high market caps (valued more highly by Wall Street).  What is really interesting is that SuccessFactors was able to grow by almost 50% for the past three years, even through one of the worst recessions in the last 100 years.  The value of growth can also been seen by a company that recently went public, Cornerstone OnDemand, they have been rewarded with a market cap that is over $800M even though the company lost more than $40M last year.  Seems crazy right?  But they have a great organic growth story along with a major channel relationship with ADP which could also signal even faster growth in the future.

If you talk to any software sales rep they often complain about their pipeline and the lack of quality leads. Reminds me of those coveted Glengarry leads  from Mitch and Murray downtown.    So at the heart of all of these companies and their rapid growth rates is that they have all developed a core competency to generate high quality leads and build pipelines quickly.

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Here are some tricks that I have learned along the way that will help you to build out your SaaS lead generation strategies:

  • Use a Portfolio Approach - Depending on your product, buyers, and market there may be many ways to generate interest.  Campaign elements of a typical lead generation strategy are a combination of organic and paid web traffic, email campaigns, webinars, customer programs, social media and targeted events.   Don’t put all of your investment in a single demand generation approach, but reward the tactics that generate quality leads at an affordable price.
  • Test and Test Again - With the portfolio approach you will need to continually test your messaging, packaging, value propositions, and price points.   The best-in-class SaaS firms are continually testing and refining their lead strategies.  This is important as most SaaS marketing organizations are trying to lower and optimize their Customer Acquisition Costs (CAC).
  • Automate Where Possible -  There are a lot of great Sales 2.0 tools available today that can give you a real unfair advantage in the lead generation process.  Companies like Marketo, Pardot, Eloqua, Constant Contact, NetSuite and even Salesforce offer many tools to help you automate and analyze your marketing efforts.  I would definitely recommend implementing a lead nurturing or drip marketing program to continue to work your lower quality leads, this is a great way to build your pipeline over time with little direct human intervention.
  • Track Everything - Make sure your sales operations and marketing teams are tracking and analyzing all of your lead activities and conversion rates.  You don’t need to be overly complex, but just tracking some basic things like lead scores, lead acceptance rates, leads converting to opportunities and close rates can help your organization to fuel your high growth SaaS sales engine.

With Cornerstone OnDemand’s recent IPO (NASDAQ: CSOD) and their high valuation based on a negative EBIDTA, many are starting to ask if we are headed for a second Internet or SaaS Bubble?

I do agree that some of the valuations at this point are a lot higher than a reasonable person would expect, but this is probably just pent up interest in the technology sector. It doesn’t help that Facebook and LinkedIn has seriously pumped up the valuations for Internet/Social Media firms, but today’s SaaS companies are very different from the Dot Bombs of 1999/2000.

Remember these companies?

Company

Business

Market Cap

(000’s)

Web Van

On-line Groceries

$1,200

Pets.com

On-line Pet Supplies

$ 325

VerticalNet

Marketing

$5,400

Kozmo.com

Delivery Services

Private

All of these companies were built on bad business models, too much money and expectations that were out of control. And by the way are all out of business.

But not all of the Internet companies that were formed during this period were bombs; in fact there are a number of firms that are now pillars of the technology industry including these firms:

Company

Founded

Business

Ticker

Market Cap

(000’s)

Amazon

1994

eCommerce

AMZN

$76,380

Ariba

1996

eProcurment

ARBA

$ 3,140

eBay

1995

eCommerce

EBAY

$39,370

j2 Global Comm.

1995

Communications

JCOM

$ 1,340

Priceline

1997

eCommerce

PCLN

$23,790

WebMD

1996

Health Content

WBMD

$ 3,150

It would be safe to say that each of these companies struggled during and after the Dot-Com collapse but they were able to modify their models to take advantage of the efficiencies that the Internet provided. Amazon has built a business that can effectively compete against the largest retailer in the world, Walmart, even though its sales are only 1/12th their revenues.

All of these Internet Survivors had to develop a real business model that would deliver solid margins, profits and growth. They each had to assemble experienced management teams, learn how to deliver superior customer service and build trusted brands. Not easy to do, but they did it.

Fast-forward to today and we have a whole new set of Internet and Software-as-a-Service companies that have emerged and gone public including these firms:

Company

Founded

Business

Ticker

Market Cap

(000’s)

Athena Health

1997

EMR

ATHN

$ 1,560

Blackboard

1997

Education

BBBB

$ 1,280

Concur

1993

Travel & Expense

CNQR

$ 2,960

Cornerstone OnDemand(1)

1999

Talent Mgmt

CSOD

$ 855

Constant Contact

1995

Marketing

CTCT

$ 1,000

Google

1998

Search, PaaS

GOOG

$187,000

Kenexa

1987

Talent Mgmt

KNXA

$ 622

NetSuite

1998

ERP

N

$ 1,880

RightNow

1997

CRM

RNOW

$ 1,030

Salesforce.com

1999

CRM, PaaS

CRM

$16,930

Servicesource (2)

1999

Service Mgmt

SREV

$ 774

SuccessFactors

2001

Talent Mgmt

SFSF

$ 2,990

Taleo

1996

Talent Mgmt

TLEO

$ 1,430

Ultimate Software

1990

Payroll

ULTI

$ 1,490

Vocus

1992

Marketing

VOCS

$ 478

(1) CSOD IPO: March 17, 2011
(2) SREV IPO: March 25, 2011

As you can see most of these companies were founded before the Internet Bubble burst and were forced to create real business models that could deliver profits.

At Montclair Advisors, we specialize in SaaS business advisory services and we know many of these firms quite well and they all have strong management teams, growing businesses and staying power. Unlike the Internet firms that went IPO in 1999 or 2000, most of these firms have had to build up their businesses over ten or more years and are based on some form of recurring revenues.

Major differences between the companies on this list versus the early Dot Bomb firms include:

  • Proven Over Time. As you can see most of these firms are at least ten years old and have weathered the economic changes through the last two recessions.

  • Businesses at Scale. Most of these companies are over $100M in annual revenues, which means they have been successful in selling into multiple markets and geographies.

  • Recurring Revenue Streams. Anyone who has been involved with a company that has developed a subscription business can tell you how hard it is to create a meaningful recurring revenue stream. The advantages of being a SaaS software company based on subscriptions means that revenues remain consistent so there is a high degree of transparency and visibility.

  • High Degree of Customer Satisfaction. All of these companies are dependent on satisfied customers that want to renew their annual subscription agreements and purchase more services. This is quite different than the ‘drive-by’ relationships many of the early Internet companies developed with their customers.

  • Strong Management Teams. After the Dot Com crash it became much harder to file for an IPO and manage a company in the post Sarbanes-Oxley world. These next generation of Internet companies have attracted leading management expertise that knows how to innovate and rapidly scale viable businesses.

So are the valuations of companies like Cornerstone OnDemand and Servicesource, Facebook and LinkedIn too high? Are we beginning to see a SaaS Bubble? Maybe, but all of these companies have been built for the long term and will be around long after any correction, unlike their early Internet cousins Web Van or Kozmo.com.

by Kevin Dobbs

Montclair Advisors, LLC

Now with all types of Software-as-a-Service alternatives in the market today, one tip that separates the winners from everyone else is the ability to create a product that is truly viral.  Granted several of these companies listed above offer consumer-oriented offerings, not traditional enterprise or corporate software there are examples like Yammer, were large organizations have very quickly adopted their products because the internal usage spreads like wildfire.  I profiled Yammer and they are definitely an organization that has built its sales and marketing model on being viral.

Here are some tips when thinking about incorporating viral adoption into your product and business strategy:

  • Offer a free version of your software. For most SMB SaaS firms this is now table stakes to play in the game, but for firms like 37Signals, Freshbooks and Yammer have leveraged their free versions as a way to generate qualified paying customers.  Keep in mind this is not pursing a Freemium strategy (ask like a SmartRecruiters, Dropbox or Mint.com), it is just a way of generating a lot of new users, which then can be converted into paying customers.

  • Clear pricing for your product.  By offering a high degree of transparency around pricing, software companies can take the pricing conversation off the table and allow their customers to make their own decisions before they ever contact you.  Here is an example of how 37Signals’ Basecamp product pricing looks on their website… it’s really easy.  This type of tiered pricing allows the customer to self-select the amount of software and service they need to get their job done, and it also enables the customer to start small and add more capability over time.

  • Trials.  If you have a tiered pricing structure but don’t offer a free version of your software, then it is highly recommended to to have a free trial version (up to 30 days free).  This allows your prospects to experience your product first hand and explore its features and functionality.  If the product is relatively straightforward then you can let the prospects just play in their own sandbox.  On the other hand if you product is complex or requires some context-setting, then it would be a good idea to offer proctored assistance through assistance over the phone, webinars or even short videos to help them with individual features.  Intuit has really embraced the SaaS business model and offer many trails including this one for their Intuit Websites product.

  • Intuitive interface. Really think through your interface and make it as easy to use as possible.  Most software users would prefer to do things themselves and your products interface is the key allowing them to do that.  Companies like Intuit do a lot of testing around how their products behave in real-life situations and they observe their customers actually using their products.  This helps with screen layout, workflows and even user roles for certain types of applications.

  • Keep training to a minimum.  If you offer an intuitive product, then there is less of requirement for training but most applications require some type of overview or setup.  For anyone who uses an iPhone, iPad or MacBook Pro, Apple provides all types of training videos that are quite informative and help to get you started using their products.  Also providing a solid knowledgebase of information as well as a vibrant user community also helps to get customers up and running successfully with your product. Check out what Constant Contact’s Learning Center.

  • Small consumable chunks.  We can learn a lot from many of the learning consumer Internet firms like Facebook, LinkedIn and even Zynga.  Especially gaming firms like Zynga (Farmville) have taught us to start small and then expose more functionality over time.  This allows for easier consumption of capabilities and viral adoption of solutions.

  • Rapid Time to Value.  Even more complex systems need to be able to be ’stood up’ quickly.  We often recommend creating a generic version of the software that can be provisioned very rapidly and made available to the customer.  For an SMB type of product I would recommend <1 days to get a basic version and for complex enterprise applications, you should try to deploy a generic version <5 days.  Even though this version of the software will have its functionality and UI configured, data added, workflows tailored, it is important to give the customer something they can start using as close to immediately as possible.  This is also a good idea from a revenue perspective as well because you can start to charge once your customers start using your systems.

Just to recap, getting a product to go viral requires a lot of thought around how your customers are going to use your product, keeping everything simple and focusing on making sure customers are successful when they use your product.

Considering how have been wildly successful some of these companies have been in the consumer space – Facebook has 500M users, Zynga has over 200M monthly users and in the business application space firms like Yammer have over 1M users, 37signals has over 3M BaseCamp users, Freshbooks has over 2M users and Intuit has over 1M SaaS-based users of its products, and important lessons can be learned from how these companies are building their SaaS products for viral adoption.

Here is our updated Public Company SaaS interactive spreadsheet.  Enjoy!

After our post on January 26th we got several great comments about the cost of starting a SaaS company.  It definitely takes a commitment to build a true SaaS company, especially when you consider some the following facts about the 15 public companies that I tracked in my high level analysis:

  • Average Start-up Capital Required:                                   $44M
  • Average Time Required from Start-up till IPO:                 7 years
  • Average Capital Required per Year till IPO (Burn):             $6.8M
  • Average IPO Proceeds:                                                    $76M
  • Additional Capital Raised After the IPO:                           $243M
  • Average Total Capital Raised:                                          $363M
  • Average Market Capitalization:                                      $1,262M
  • Companies Who are Profitable:                                            8

The costs of getting a SaaS start-up off the ground are substantial but only about half of the firms we tracked actually started out as a pure SaaS company.   These other Cross-Over firms started out as either Application Service Providers (ASP’s) or were traditional On-premise ISV’s that move to SaaS through a combination of organic migration or through a series of acquisitions.  Companies like Concur, Kenexa, Taleo and Ultimate Software have all transitioned to SaaS from an on-premise heritage.

Montclair Advisors - SaaS Start Up Costs - Pre IPO

Montclair Advisors - SaaS Start Up Costs - Pre IPO

The shortest time to go from start-up phase to an IPO was 4 years and the longest was 13 years.  Most of the firms we tracked were founded between 1997 to 1999, which was prior and during the Internet Bubble.

When these firms went public they raised a range between $30M (LivePerson and Ultimate Software) to over $150M (DealerTrack and NetSuite), but on average they raised about $75M.  All the firms then went on to do additional capital raises from $32M (LivePerson) up to $750M (DealerTrack) but on average each raised $243M!   The total capital raised, when considering both pre IPO, IPO and post IPO capital raised, these firms raised between $100M (LivePerson and Ultimate Software) to close to more than $500M (DealerTrack, Salesforce.com and SuccessFactors).

Montclair Advisors - SaaS Start Up Costs - Post IPO

After going public, this SaaS market basket of companies have done well as a group.  The majority of the firms are profitable, which makes for solid cash flow performance, revenue visibility and overall stability of the company’s stock, for the real SaaS firms.

The most valuable company, based on their Market Cap is Salesforce.com at more than $8B and there are at least 4 other SaaS firms with valuations over $1B (Blackboard, Concur, NetSuite and SuccessFactors).  When comparing the amount of capital raised to the market valuation, the 5 best performing firms are Salesforce.com (.09), Ultimate Software (.13) , Concur (.19), RightNow (.22) and LivePerson (.31).

Montclair Advisors - SaaS Start Up Costs - Market Caps

Montclair Advisors - SaaS Start Up Costs - Market Caps

This year, as the economy improves, promises to launch a few new SaaS IPOs and we will continue to track this core group as well as a larger group of Hybrids and Cross Overs and will periodically report back with our findings.

When speaking with entrepreneurs and investors about the investment required to start up a new Software-as-a-Service company, I often refer back to this list.   At Montclair Advisors thought this would be a handy reference for those looking to start a SaaS company during 2010.

Looks like you might need a money tree to start a SaaS company, but for those that reach critical mass and go public, there is a tremendous payback.  This is information has been gathered from various sources including Wachovia, CrunchBase and Google Finance.

Company Investment Current Market Cap Ticker Symbol
(in 000’s) (in 000’s)
Blackboard $100.7M $1,300M BBBB
Concur $30.2M $2,100M CNQR
Constant Contact $37.3M $527M CTCT
DealerTrack $48.0M $774M TRAK
Kenexa $54.5M $256M KNXA
LivePerson $41.6M $335M LPSN
LogMeIn $20.0M $448M LOGM
NetSuite $84.9M $1,000M N
RightNow $32.2M $553M RNOW
Salary.com $5.7M $40M SLRY
Salesforce.com $64.5M $8,500M CRM
SuccessFactors $54.5M $1,100M SFSF
Taleo $36.9M $891M TLEO
Ultimate Software $25.1M $755M ULTI
Vocus $26.4M $345M VOCS