With Cornerstone OnDemand’s recent IPO (NASDAQ: CSOD) and their high valuation based on a negative EBIDTA, many are starting to ask if we are headed for a second Internet or SaaS Bubble?
I do agree that some of the valuations at this point are a lot higher than a reasonable person would expect, but this is probably just pent up interest in the technology sector. It doesn’t help that Facebook and LinkedIn has seriously pumped up the valuations for Internet/Social Media firms, but today’s SaaS companies are very different from the Dot Bombs of 1999/2000.
Remember these companies?
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Company |
Business |
Market Cap (000’s) |
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On-line Groceries |
$1,200 |
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On-line Pet Supplies |
$ 325 |
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Marketing |
$5,400 |
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Delivery Services |
Private |
All of these companies were built on bad business models, too much money and expectations that were out of control. And by the way are all out of business.
But not all of the Internet companies that were formed during this period were bombs; in fact there are a number of firms that are now pillars of the technology industry including these firms:
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Company |
Founded |
Business |
Ticker |
Market Cap (000’s) |
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1994 |
eCommerce |
$76,380 |
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1996 |
eProcurment |
$ 3,140 |
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1995 |
eCommerce |
$39,370 |
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1995 |
Communications |
$ 1,340 |
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1997 |
eCommerce |
$23,790 |
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1996 |
Health Content |
$ 3,150 |
It would be safe to say that each of these companies struggled during and after the Dot-Com collapse but they were able to modify their models to take advantage of the efficiencies that the Internet provided. Amazon has built a business that can effectively compete against the largest retailer in the world, Walmart, even though its sales are only 1/12th their revenues.
All of these Internet Survivors had to develop a real business model that would deliver solid margins, profits and growth. They each had to assemble experienced management teams, learn how to deliver superior customer service and build trusted brands. Not easy to do, but they did it.
Fast-forward to today and we have a whole new set of Internet and Software-as-a-Service companies that have emerged and gone public including these firms:
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Company |
Founded |
Business |
Ticker |
Market Cap (000’s) |
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1997 |
$ 1,560 |
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1997 |
Education |
$ 1,280 |
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1993 |
Travel & Expense |
$ 2,960 |
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1999 |
Talent Mgmt |
$ 855 |
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1995 |
Marketing |
$ 1,000 |
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1998 |
Search, PaaS |
$187,000 |
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1987 |
Talent Mgmt |
$ 622 |
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1998 |
ERP |
$ 1,880 |
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1997 |
CRM |
$ 1,030 |
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1999 |
CRM, PaaS |
$16,930 |
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Servicesource (2) |
1999 |
Service Mgmt |
$ 774 |
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2001 |
Talent Mgmt |
$ 2,990 |
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1996 |
Talent Mgmt |
$ 1,430 |
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1990 |
Payroll |
$ 1,490 |
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1992 |
Marketing |
$ 478 |
As you can see most of these companies were founded before the Internet Bubble burst and were forced to create real business models that could deliver profits.
At Montclair Advisors, we specialize in SaaS business advisory services and we know many of these firms quite well and they all have strong management teams, growing businesses and staying power. Unlike the Internet firms that went IPO in 1999 or 2000, most of these firms have had to build up their businesses over ten or more years and are based on some form of recurring revenues.
Major differences between the companies on this list versus the early Dot Bomb firms include:
So are the valuations of companies like Cornerstone OnDemand and Servicesource, Facebook and LinkedIn too high? Are we beginning to see a SaaS Bubble? Maybe, but all of these companies have been built for the long term and will be around long after any correction, unlike their early Internet cousins Web Van or Kozmo.com.
It is always hard to predict the future, but here are my 10 Predictions for the SaaS market in 2011, and they might just happen:
A number of large consumer subscription software players including Facebook, Groupon, LinkedIn, Zynga and Skype could really open up the public markets with a major blockbuster IPO (or IPO’s) in 2011. SaaS firms that look to get everyone’s attention with potential IPO’s next year include Cornerstone OnDemand, Workday, Marketo, Service-Now and possibly Plateau.
So my prediction (which is a pure guess) is that SuccessFactors and Taleo finally get over their respective CEO ego issues and decide to merge. Sounds a little crazy, but when you really consider their product portfolios, there might not be as much of an overlap as you might think. SuccessFactors is basically a performance and analytics company and Taleo is a recruiting and learning (after acquiring Learn.com) company. They both have some additional components that could be plugged into to create a more comprehensive suite of CPM and Talent Management offerings.
This would also create a combined company with a market cap approaching (SFSF + TLEO) $4B and annual revenues in excess of $400M, which would be the second largest SaaS firm in the market, and a clear leader in their space. Another potential marriage might be Concur and Ultimate Software.
It seems like most Oracle SaaS rumors involve the acquisition of Salesforce.com, and that may happen some day, but the more likely combination for 2011 is NetSuite. Larry Ellison is a major investor in NetSuite (early investor) and own/controls more that 50% of the company’s shares. He may come to the conclusion that he needs some real SaaS DNA inside of Oracle to help grow their Fusion business in 2011 and beyond.
Similar to the realization that many other major traditional ISV’s will come to in 2011, that they are too far beyond in SaaS to catch up organically, SAP will buy their way into SaaS. The Business ByDesign project for SAP, by some estimates, has cost more than $1 billion and there isn’t much to show for it. I always thought that the Sybase acquisition was just a smoke screen to cover up how little progress has been made with BBD at their most recent Sapphire user meeting. Like Oracle, I think SAP reaches out into the market and purchases a SaaS firm to jump start BBD. RightNow would be an interesting choice since SAP wants to make a splash in the CRM market.
These big software companies are no longer just paying lip service to SaaS or the Cloud, they continue to catch up with the subscription software market transition that is happening everywhere. All sizes of customers who were battered during the recession are no longer interested in spending a lot of capital and time that has been associated with traditional software projects and are becoming increasing comfortable with SaaS. This shift in the Software market is massive and is going to take at least 10 years, and we are probably only in the second year (post-recession) of this shift. Continue to look to see what SaaS moves firms like Oracle, SAP, HP, CA and Infor make in 2011.
Look at Salesforce.com’s recent moves to expand their Force.com Platform-as-a-Service portfolio with VMForce and then buying Ruby on Rails provider Heroku for over $200 million. Beyond Force.com there are many other offerings here today and coming in 2011 including App Engine by Google, Apprenda, Azure by Microsoft, Corent, Engine Yard, Facebook, Flex by Adobe, Fusion by Oracle, Intalio, IPP by Intuit, LongJump, Nimbula, SuiteCloud by NetSuite, and Wolf Frameworks.
As long as traditional ISV’s continue to move towards SaaS, there will be a green field opportunity for all types of PaaS solutions. Look for several of these firms to be acquired in 2011 by larger ISV’s.
After attending Dreamforce this month, it was curious to see a number of Force.com firms offering ERP extensions starting to gain real market momentum. Companies like FinancialForce.com (they purchased Appirio’s PSE business) who are delivering a growing suite of financial and accounting applications, JobScience who continue to build out their Talent Relationship Management suite on Force.com, Less Software who is selling a targeted Supply Chain Management solution and even Remedy’s Service Desk offering, RemedyForce Cloud. If Salesforce offers an attractive exit for any of these firms or their Force.com products, like they did with Heroku, then it might be possible to do a quick roll-up of key partners to create a competitive Cloud-based ERP solution.
Interestingly this type of move might be triggered by Oracle buying Netsuite or Workday going public.
Although Private Clouds might be a viable alternative for enterprises who are looking to leverage the economics of the Cloud, for software companies this type of approach will only provide short term ‘Fake SaaS‘ types of solutions. This type of business model of hosting single-tenant software was known as Application Service Providers (ASP’s) and none of these companies that emerged about 10 years ago were able to find a business model that really scaled profitably. Private Clouds will offer a short term technology transition steps for software companies who are moving away from just offering traditional on-premise software but this trend will really start to fade by later next year.
At Dreamforce ‘10 Salesforce.com announced that they are launching their new Database.com offering, a Database in the Cloud. What was interesting about this news is that Salesforce is really just reselling a private-label version of Oracle’s database technology. For Salesforce this is a unique way to take proven Oracle software, designed for on-premise deployment, and create a true subscription-based version of this product. No doubt that Salesforce will need to do some work to create a massive multi-tenant version of an ORACLE database and then deliver it as a service, but they are already doing this today through their Force.com platform. This could be a significant new revenue stream for both companies and look for other SaaS firms to try OEM’ing their software as a way to improve their CAGRs in 2011.
This should be an interesting year as the economy improves and the SaaS market really begins to gain some serious momentum. It should be a fun time to be in the Software business again.
Kevin Dobbs, Montclair Advisors, LLC
by Kevin Dobbs
Montclair Advisors, LLC
Now with all types of Software-as-a-Service alternatives in the market today, one tip that separates the winners from everyone else is the ability to create a product that is truly viral. Granted several of these companies listed above offer consumer-oriented offerings, not traditional enterprise or corporate software there are examples like Yammer, were large organizations have very quickly adopted their products because the internal usage spreads like wildfire. I profiled Yammer and they are definitely an organization that has built its sales and marketing model on being viral.
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Here are some tips when thinking about incorporating viral adoption into your product and business strategy:
by Kevin Dobbs
Montclair Advisors, LLC
When advising software clients who are interested in moving to a SaaS business model, one of the areas I really dig into is how are they selling to new customers. Most of us in the SaaS community realize that carefully tracking your Customer Acquisition Costs or CAC, is a critical component in building a successful and profitable company, but I think it is equally important to understand how traditional software sales and marketing models and SaaS models differ.
Traditional Software Sales & Marketing Model
Over the past 25 years there has been a traditional way to market and sell enterprise software which has been based on key principles such as:
Brings back the good ol’ days doesn’t it. Many software firms are still using this model and they are finding out that it doesn’t work very well in the new world of Software-as-a-Service sales. Some of the reasons it doesn’t work is that software buyer preferences are definitely changing, but one big issue is it is very expensive to operate this type of model, especially when you get your revenues paid out over time.
SaaS Sales & Marketing Model
There are several important differences in the SaaS model that make the traditional software sales and marketing model less than effective;
Given these differences, then what should your SaaS Sales & Marketing model look like? Here are some ideas to consider when building out your SaaS sales and marketing plans for 2011 that can help you to build out a low-cost but high-efficiency sales and marketing machine;
Marketing
Sales
Metrics like Customer Acquisition Costs and the Magic Number can help your sales and marketing teams see how effective their programs are and can provide insight when to invest and when to continue developing your repeatable sales model. I would also encourage you to learn more about Mark Leslie’s Sales Learning Curve, because it offers a more scientific approach to cost-effectively building out your SaaS sales team. Best-in-class firms that have profiled in this blog have adopted many of these techniques to build a scalable but cost-careful sales and marketing organizations.
Stay tuned for Tip #6 Package for Viral Adoption
Company: Yammer
Started: 2007
Located: San Francisco, California
Geography: North America
Market: Enterprise Microblogging Platform
Products: Yammer Desktop, Yammer on your Mobile Device, and Yammer Plug-Ins
Key Customers: Deloitte, AMD, AAA of Northern California, Nevada and Utah, SMG, Cargill, Thomson Reuters, Sungard, Hill & Knowlton and SunCorp.
Website: Yammer
Blog: Yammer Blog
Twitter: @Yammer
Recent News:
Yammer is Selected as an MIT Sloan CIO Symposium Innovation Showcase Finalist
Fortune 500 Companies Flock to Yammer
Yammer Secures $10 Million in Series B Funding from Emergence Capital and Previous Investors
I asked David Sacks, Yammer’s Founder, CEO and Chairman of the Board few questions about his business and his view of the SaaS market in 2010.
Did you start out as a Software-as-a-Service company?
Yes, we did start out as a SaaS company. Our company was incubated inside of Geni, which develops family tree software. I was also involved with the consumer Internet with my experience starting PayPal. As both companies scaled, I found it was hard to keep tabs on what everyone was doing, and Yammer was developed to address this challenge. We found that microblogging was a great way to keep current on the status of important projects, individual profiles and information feeds inside of an enterprise.
Then in 2008, we spun out Yammer and that same year won the TechCrunch 50’s Best in Show award.
Initially we were targeting small and medium sized businesses but we are now seeing that Yammer has strong appeal for large enterprises like AAA, AMD, Cargill, Cisco, Deloitte, and Thomson Reuters.
Yammer is very viral because it was very easy for anyone to sign-up, confirm their company’s email address and start using the system. You don’t need to wait for an IT administrator to set up Yammer and you can quickly invite your work colleagues, with the same company email domain, to join in and begin collaborating with you.
When a company wants to claim the network being used by it’s employees, they pay a nominal subscription fee, and then we provide a set of administrative tools that allow them to manage upgrades, security, compliance, deliver premium support, and customize their site.
Part of our initial business model was to base Yammer on the consumer model of software, but make it enterprise-class. We wanted to remove the traditional friction from our software sales process by making our product as easy to use as Facebook.
Why do your customers buy from Yammer?
Our customers never have to pay or upgrade our software unless their employees are using it. This is very attractive, when you compare it to the traditional software selection process where you have to vet vendors, choose one, negotiate the contract, implement the product, pay a lot of money and then no one uses it. Yammer is de-risking the traditional enterprise software value proposition. Employees are valuing it because they use it.
When large companies see thousands of employees using Yammer what do they do? They can do three things - wait and see what happens, shut it down or buy it and we are finding the vast majority of companies are buying Yammer because their employees are being productive and want to collaborate using the software.Our customers also really like our administrative tools for e-discovery, security, directory integration, and network administration.
“If Facebook and Twitter had a baby, it would be Yammer.”
We are like Twitter because we offer a real-time feed of information; you can follow any one, join groups and sort information feeds by hash tags. We are like Facebook because there is no 140-character limit, you can have attachments, threaded replies and we offer a variety of enterprise management tools.
Yammer is a like a virtual office where workers can feel more connected to each other, especially remote workers. We act like the traditional company water cooler for these distributed organizations. As workforces become more mobile, Yammer just make a lot of sense for enterprise collaboration. Today we only offer Yammer in English but we have noticed that there are an increasing number of new customers who are signing up outside of North America. In the near future we will be supporting multiple languages in addition to English.
Customers also like our value-based pricing model. We charge between $3 and $5 per seat per month, depending on the level of support and administrative tools. We also provide volume discounts for our larger customers. This is much more cost attractive than purchasing Chatter from Salesforce.com for $15 per seat, which is quite expensive and most employees don’t want to communicate through the company’s corporate CRM system. Our very fast viral Freemium approach appears to be working, because since we have been live for only the last 18 months we now have over 1 million seats today.
What do you see as the key trend emerging in the SaaS industry?
The first trend is the consumerization of enterprise software; Yammer is a great example of this trend. Real innovation in the technology space over the past 10 years has been on the consumer-side of the software market with products like Facebook and Twitter. At Yammer we want to take these learnings back into the enterprise software world. When I was at PayPal, we were very successful using the Freemium model to promote adoption. This type of approach to software can definitely result in the overall democratization of enterprise software. SaaS is the first step, when the delivery model changed, then there were no upfront costs and the risk is dramatically lower. Using techniques developed by consumer software firms, more and different kinds of buyers can now access enterprise-class software.
The second trend we see is that enterprise software products will be designed more for the end-user than power users or administrators. A good example is how Facebook and Twitter don’t do every possible feature or function and they don’t clutter the user’s screen. This simplified approach to software allow causal users to be more engaged with their products and other users. These types of causal use software products will also appeal to younger employees who have used Facebook and LinkedIn and expect their enterprise software products to be that easy to use.
Social Networking is also a major trend we are seeing. We started thinking about this over the last couple of years, since 2007. Now it seems so obvious, that social networking would grow into an unstoppable trend. The ability to connect workers, to leverage expertise and content all in real-time, which allows everyone to work smarter, just makes a lot of sense. I still think that there is confusion about Enterprise Social Networking, for instance Salesforce sees it as a CRM newsfeed, and we see it as enterprise real-time communication. Eventually we see Enterprise Social Networking replacing corporate email and instant messaging.
What is your outlook for 2010?
In January we raised $10M, led by Emergence, that provided capital to allow us to expand our team. Our investors liked the fact that we have built a very cost effective business, based on our viral distribution model. Our Q1 sales were greater than all of our sales for last year combined.
The software industry is realizing that Enterprise Collaboration is going to be a huge space. Most software companies will want to get into this market because every company will want one of these collaboration platforms to deploy. The only problem is that most enterprise software firms looks at these types of tools backwards, because they already have multiple different product lines, then they will need to stuff it through their sales channel. At Yammer we have already solved this distribution channel problem and we can actually open up our channel to these companies as a Distribution as a Service model.
We continue to sign up a number of large customers, and this type of adoption makes other large companies comfortable using our technology. Things look great and our traction is accelerating.
Since everyone is interested in SaaS funding and valuations I thought it would be helpful to tell you about an interesting Cloud Computing investor panel I attended at the recent All About the Cloud conference in SF. The session was moderated by Jason Green from Emergence Capital Partners and was joined by Gary Hromadko from Crosslink Capital, Mark McNay from William Blair and Evangelos Simoudis from Trident Capital.
So what did they have to say?
The market has finally changed for the better
2009 was all about survival and the venture community did less than half the investments than in a typical year.
This year is now about growing again and current investments are more focused on companies that have weathered the economic downturn. Their investments are focused on changing the slope of these types of company’s growth curves, by concentrating more on sales and marketing.
SaaS and Cloud companies are leading the way
Consumers have been driving the adoption of easier to use Cloud-based solutions like eBay, iTunes, Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn. They are viral and can reach critical mass very quickly because there are low barriers to adoption.
With SaaS, the recession has really pushed the advantages of a subscription business model and moving from CapEx to OpEx software investments. It’s like leasing your car rather than buying it.
Lean start-ups are definitely in. Almost all early stage software investments in 2009-10 are Cloud-based because it takes a fair amount of capital to fund SaaS firms and it takes a long time for them to reach profitability. One interesting comment was that later stage on-premise companies are now being asked about what their SaaS/Cloud strategy is for the future, because without it, they may find funding might be difficult.
What the VC’s are looking for
SaaS 1.0 focused on a company’s income statement, expenses and cash flows than GAAP reported financials. One important measurement is a company’s incremental contribution margins (gross margins), which is critical for SaaS. Companies needed to balance capital efficiency with building a business that can scale.
Investors are looking for unique business processes that can only be built or automated through SaaS or the Cloud. Emergence latest investments are pure Cloud-based companies that have viral qualities like YouSendit, the files sharing company and Yammer and the enterprise micro-blogging firm, both of these companies are viral enterprise solutions. Yammer has more than 70,000 customers with at least 1 user and is signing up between 7-10,000 users a month and 10% are turning into paying customers. Crosslink invested in Carbonite, a backup and recovery company, has high margins and is the only other independent player in the category with Mozy, who is owned by EMC. They felt that scarcity of competitors and their ability to manage Customer Acquisition Costs were important in establishing the company’s value.
The panelists also said they are looking for companies that have a rigorous focus on metrics like Customer Lifetime Value and Customer Acquisition Costs. In fact CAC appears to drive business value because it has a lot to do with capital efficiency and the company’s ability to grow their business.
Exits, IPO’s and Valuations
Economy has recovered and CEO’s are ready to start taking on more risk, and it’s a real change in psychology because we are at the beginning of a macro trend that will last more than 10 years.
This is evident by more than 100 M&A transactions last quarter including high profile deals like IBM buying CastIron, Salesforce buying Jigsaw for $142M, Successfactors buying CubeTree for $50M. The current environment is right for deals, especially as SaaS is gaining enterprise momentum with recent deals like SuccessFactors’ mega deal with Walmart for 1.6M users. Transactions like Jigsaw, CubeTree, and CA’s purchase of 3Tera and Nimsoft for $350M all indicate a return to a healthy M&A atmosphere, that will probably last for the next 12-18 months.
Oracle and SAP won’t be aggressive on the M&A front until they come to the realization that they can’t build Cloud solutions internally. Because many SaaS companies have now crossed the $25-30M in recurring revenues threshold, these firms may become quite attractive to these larger ISV’s looking to make the move to the SaaS business model.
But these acquirers don’t want to take on the burn associated with many start-ups so it will be important to stay close to breakeven and you may have to sacrifice growth for profitability. Since the access to capital is still tight, start-ups will have to try and collect cash upfront and continue to tune their business models to improve cash flows.
Companies that seem to own a category have perceived scarcity value which will result in a premium on any transaction, especially if they are perceived to own a segment franchise. VC’s and acquirers are looking for a minimum of 40% CAGR to get a premium valuation.
On the other side of the liquidity front, the IPO window for SaaS companies is beginning to open up and firms like SolarWinds and LogMeIn have now been joined by SPS Commerce and Convio. At least before the recent stock market downturn, these companies had traded up by 15% since their IPOs.
The panel seemed to believe that the market is definitely getting better and that is good news for SaaS and Cloud Computing companies looking for funding or an exit!
Crazy like a fox.
With the economy in such tough shape, with customers on the sidelines with no budget to buy software, maybe now is the perfect time to embrace a Freemium software strategy. This concept was originally proposed by a venture captialist named Fred Wilson, the founder of Union Square Ventures.
This became really clear to me over the past 6 months that this trend towards free software might be the future. Initially I read a great article entitled Free! is the Future in Wired magazine (make sure you watch the Chris Anderson video), which I thought presented a very clear argument for free.
Think of all of the free software and services business models that went bust during the Internet Boom. But then again there have been many businesses that were built using a free business model including Google, Yahoo!, Skype, eBay, and Craigslist just to name a few. Some of the new kids on the freemium block include Facebook, LinkedIn, SimplyHired, Kijiji, 37signals and many of the open source software players.
My second realization of the power of free was using 37signals BaseCamp project management product. It was a great example of providing a free product that you liked so much that you had to buy into their paid version. If you need a project management tool, this one is worth a subscription and you may end up pulling out your credit card like me.
Then my third reason why I thought freemium could really be the future of software is based on working with a great company, MrTed, who makes Applicant Tracking or ATS software for large companies. MrTed just recently launched their new Small and Medium business freemium offering, SmartRecruiters, which is an Open SaaS product, which is a mashup of Open Source and SaaS business concepts. This Open SaaS model was developed by Jerome Ternynck MrTed’s CEO and founder. SmartRecruiters like many other freemium offerings is based on the development of a strong and passionate user community, who ultimately become the revenue engine for these companies. SmartRecruiters will monetize their business model by offering a collection of value-added services that are bundled with their free software.
As companies look at their 2009 business strategies, they need to balance gaining marketshare while keeping customer acquisition costs (CAC) as low as possible. By deploying a freemium software strategy now you might be considered crazy in 2009 but be laughing all the way in the not too distant future.