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Patersons Global Payroll

Montclair Advisors had done a SaaS business profile of Patersons in April 2010 and we wanted to get an update from their new CEO, Andrew Pearson. Andrew was brought into the company shortly after our profile was completed and came from SaaS collaboration provider IntraLinks where he was the Managing Director of EMEA.

With the change in management, the company has re-focused its strategy primarily around providing a robust global payroll software and services platform. This has been the company’s strength over time and they felt that this approach would open up some new ways to partner with the leading SaaS Talent Management and HCM providers if they weren’t also offering competitive products. Patersons solutions tend to be a very agile and can fit into any organization’s environment based on their infrastructure requirements. In addition, to their software platform Patersons will continue to offer customers a managed services option for their payroll processing needs.

New Partnerships

The big news was Paterson’s new partnership with Workday and how they were planning on supporting several of their larger customers who were looking for global payroll capability. Workday is focusing more on building out their financials platform in the near term and less on extending their payroll solutions, so partnering with Patersons for their Logon2 global payroll platform makes a lot of sense. The plan is to offer Workday customers not only their HCM and Talent Management solutions but also an integrated global payroll solution that allows the customer to turn off competitive payroll solutions over time. Often these types of companies may have many different payroll providers by the countries or regions that they are doing business in and by consolidating onto a single platform over time, this approach can deliver value on many different levels. This partnership was announced in January 2011.

The other big announcement that occurred after my interview with Andrew was that SuccessFactors had formed a similar partnership with Patersons’ for global payroll. Patersons will join the SuccessFactors’ partner program as a Strategic SuccessCloud Partner to provide complementary global payroll services to SuccessFactors’ multi-national customer base. The Patersons product will also be integrated into SuccessFactors’ Employee Central product, which will allow customers to streamline their payroll administration especially for multi-national operations.

Strategy

This re-focused strategy has been working with the company experiencing strong growth in excess of 40% annual growth and currently support more than 160 countries. Patersons today is concentrating on offering core ‘gross-to-net’ capabilities to 15 countries and will continue to expand their payroll platform out to up to 50 high GDP states and regions over the next few years. The only other software firm that has this level of cover is SAP but they aren’t going to SaaS anytime in the near future.

The future vision for Patersons is to offer their customers and partners a fully integrated global solution that allows large firms control over their payroll, ability to comply with governmental regulations as well as to reduce the cost of administration. For many of their target customers, who have grown through M&A, they have multiple vendors and a lot of technology, this level of complexity is driving up costs, and Patersons can help to streamline their payroll processes using both software and managed services.

The re-focusing of the Patersons’ strategy to primarily offer a SaaS-based global payroll platform appears to be gaining momentum and it appears that they are a company to watch here in the second half of 2011.

By Kevin Dobbs

Montclair Advisors, LLC

Now that many software companies really feel that the risks associated with a second recession are firmly in the rearview mirror, it now seems like everyone is looking to grow their businesses.

I read a great post yesterday by Bruce Cleveland at InterWest Ventures about the Value of Growth for SaaS Companies, which I thought really accurately captured a challenge that many software firms face when transitioning to a SaaS model.   This is a subject that is near and dear to me given my background as a reformed marketing executive and someone who was responsible lead generation at Oracle years ago during the Tom Siebel and Marc Benioff era.   I think it was Tom Siebel when he was running Oracle’s inside sales team that told me “I want it to rain leads from the sky!” At the time I was actually shocked because he was asking me to literally drown his sales team with qualified opportunities who wanted to buy Oracle’s database products.

As I have come to learn that he knew exactly what he was talking about and his track record demonstrates that productive sales teams deliver amazing revenue growth results.  Bruce’s post highlights that a SaaS company without meaningful growth is not worth very much and probably will fetch the low-end of the valuation curve, which is still pretty good in today’s crazy market (See last week’s post about the SaaS Bubble).   So how are high flying SaaS companies like Salesforce and SuccessFactors achieving CAGR’s in excess of 30% every year?   Check out this chart I put together on some of the leading publicly traded SaaS firms (sans Salesforce because they will skew the chart):

As you can see the companies with the higher growth rates are also the ones that have high market caps (valued more highly by Wall Street).  What is really interesting is that SuccessFactors was able to grow by almost 50% for the past three years, even through one of the worst recessions in the last 100 years.  The value of growth can also been seen by a company that recently went public, Cornerstone OnDemand, they have been rewarded with a market cap that is over $800M even though the company lost more than $40M last year.  Seems crazy right?  But they have a great organic growth story along with a major channel relationship with ADP which could also signal even faster growth in the future.

If you talk to any software sales rep they often complain about their pipeline and the lack of quality leads. Reminds me of those coveted Glengarry leads  from Mitch and Murray downtown.    So at the heart of all of these companies and their rapid growth rates is that they have all developed a core competency to generate high quality leads and build pipelines quickly.

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Here are some tricks that I have learned along the way that will help you to build out your SaaS lead generation strategies:

  • Use a Portfolio Approach - Depending on your product, buyers, and market there may be many ways to generate interest.  Campaign elements of a typical lead generation strategy are a combination of organic and paid web traffic, email campaigns, webinars, customer programs, social media and targeted events.   Don’t put all of your investment in a single demand generation approach, but reward the tactics that generate quality leads at an affordable price.
  • Test and Test Again - With the portfolio approach you will need to continually test your messaging, packaging, value propositions, and price points.   The best-in-class SaaS firms are continually testing and refining their lead strategies.  This is important as most SaaS marketing organizations are trying to lower and optimize their Customer Acquisition Costs (CAC).
  • Automate Where Possible -  There are a lot of great Sales 2.0 tools available today that can give you a real unfair advantage in the lead generation process.  Companies like Marketo, Pardot, Eloqua, Constant Contact, NetSuite and even Salesforce offer many tools to help you automate and analyze your marketing efforts.  I would definitely recommend implementing a lead nurturing or drip marketing program to continue to work your lower quality leads, this is a great way to build your pipeline over time with little direct human intervention.
  • Track Everything - Make sure your sales operations and marketing teams are tracking and analyzing all of your lead activities and conversion rates.  You don’t need to be overly complex, but just tracking some basic things like lead scores, lead acceptance rates, leads converting to opportunities and close rates can help your organization to fuel your high growth SaaS sales engine.

After our post on January 26th we got several great comments about the cost of starting a SaaS company.  It definitely takes a commitment to build a true SaaS company, especially when you consider some the following facts about the 15 public companies that I tracked in my high level analysis:

  • Average Start-up Capital Required:                                   $44M
  • Average Time Required from Start-up till IPO:                 7 years
  • Average Capital Required per Year till IPO (Burn):             $6.8M
  • Average IPO Proceeds:                                                    $76M
  • Additional Capital Raised After the IPO:                           $243M
  • Average Total Capital Raised:                                          $363M
  • Average Market Capitalization:                                      $1,262M
  • Companies Who are Profitable:                                            8

The costs of getting a SaaS start-up off the ground are substantial but only about half of the firms we tracked actually started out as a pure SaaS company.   These other Cross-Over firms started out as either Application Service Providers (ASP’s) or were traditional On-premise ISV’s that move to SaaS through a combination of organic migration or through a series of acquisitions.  Companies like Concur, Kenexa, Taleo and Ultimate Software have all transitioned to SaaS from an on-premise heritage.

Montclair Advisors - SaaS Start Up Costs - Pre IPO

Montclair Advisors - SaaS Start Up Costs - Pre IPO

The shortest time to go from start-up phase to an IPO was 4 years and the longest was 13 years.  Most of the firms we tracked were founded between 1997 to 1999, which was prior and during the Internet Bubble.

When these firms went public they raised a range between $30M (LivePerson and Ultimate Software) to over $150M (DealerTrack and NetSuite), but on average they raised about $75M.  All the firms then went on to do additional capital raises from $32M (LivePerson) up to $750M (DealerTrack) but on average each raised $243M!   The total capital raised, when considering both pre IPO, IPO and post IPO capital raised, these firms raised between $100M (LivePerson and Ultimate Software) to close to more than $500M (DealerTrack, Salesforce.com and SuccessFactors).

Montclair Advisors - SaaS Start Up Costs - Post IPO

After going public, this SaaS market basket of companies have done well as a group.  The majority of the firms are profitable, which makes for solid cash flow performance, revenue visibility and overall stability of the company’s stock, for the real SaaS firms.

The most valuable company, based on their Market Cap is Salesforce.com at more than $8B and there are at least 4 other SaaS firms with valuations over $1B (Blackboard, Concur, NetSuite and SuccessFactors).  When comparing the amount of capital raised to the market valuation, the 5 best performing firms are Salesforce.com (.09), Ultimate Software (.13) , Concur (.19), RightNow (.22) and LivePerson (.31).

Montclair Advisors - SaaS Start Up Costs - Market Caps

Montclair Advisors - SaaS Start Up Costs - Market Caps

This year, as the economy improves, promises to launch a few new SaaS IPOs and we will continue to track this core group as well as a larger group of Hybrids and Cross Overs and will periodically report back with our findings.

When speaking with entrepreneurs and investors about the investment required to start up a new Software-as-a-Service company, I often refer back to this list.   At Montclair Advisors thought this would be a handy reference for those looking to start a SaaS company during 2010.

Looks like you might need a money tree to start a SaaS company, but for those that reach critical mass and go public, there is a tremendous payback.  This is information has been gathered from various sources including Wachovia, CrunchBase and Google Finance.

Company Investment Current Market Cap Ticker Symbol
(in 000’s) (in 000’s)
Blackboard $100.7M $1,300M BBBB
Concur $30.2M $2,100M CNQR
Constant Contact $37.3M $527M CTCT
DealerTrack $48.0M $774M TRAK
Kenexa $54.5M $256M KNXA
LivePerson $41.6M $335M LPSN
LogMeIn $20.0M $448M LOGM
NetSuite $84.9M $1,000M N
RightNow $32.2M $553M RNOW
Salary.com $5.7M $40M SLRY
Salesforce.com $64.5M $8,500M CRM
SuccessFactors $54.5M $1,100M SFSF
Taleo $36.9M $891M TLEO
Ultimate Software $25.1M $755M ULTI
Vocus $26.4M $345M VOCS