At Montclair Advisors I work with many different types and sizes of software firms that are jumping into the SaaS business model for the first time.   Here are a few tips that I would tell a new client who is looking to get into the SaaS business in 2012.

Think “Whole Product”

A SaaS offering is more than just software, it is also the services to get the product up and running, training, support, the infrastructure and security.

For most SaaS firms, they really view their platform as synonymous with their company’s overall brand, which includes more than just the technology. This brand promise is a product experience that is smooth and consistent. It also takes into account issues like business continuity and being able to quickly restore systems and data after an outage. This also means that SaaS offerings must understand and how to properly manage security and compliance concerns for large, complex customers.  In some cases this promise needs to do a high level of monitoring and even anticipate and correct problems before they occur.

When considering the professional service component of a SaaS offering, there should be extra focus on efficient provisioning and on-boarding of new customers. It is important to make this initial experience quick and easy in order to improve the customer’s overall time-to-value. By combining many customer-facing functions like support, training and service into a Customer Success team is also another popular way of trying to deliver a positive ‘whole’ product experience.

Focus on Adoption and Consumption

The economics of SaaS requires both a high rate of new customer sales combined with a better than 90% renewal rate for the financial model to work. The trick that the really fast growing SaaS firms have discovered is that up-selling additional capacity and cross-selling new products not only increases top line revenues but also improves overall Customer Acquisition Costs (CAC) and business margins.

The objective in any software company should always be to build a satisfied customer-base, but in the SaaS model you can’t stop there, it is important get customers to actively use and adoption the product. When a product is easy-to-use, intuitive, being used every day, and built on a solid platform, then it can become viral. Viral products like DropBox, Yammer and Salesforce.com’s Chatter can throw off high marginal add-on sales, that can boost a SaaS company’s revenues very quickly. This type of product consumption is important for all SaaS company’s even if the use of their product may never go viral.

It’s All About Growth

Many new SaaS firms spend a lot of time and capital building out their products, which makes sense. Often they underestimate the amount of effort and focus required to build a high growth sales and marketing machine. Because it is hard initially to jump start the recurring revenue model, it is important to develop a highly productive sales methodology, usually based on a ‘land and expand’ approach. For the most successful SaaS companies (SuccessFactors, Salesforce.com, Workday), an aggressive Compound Annual Growth Rate (CAGR) is imperative to building a profitable company.  Many of these firms, even though they are large, are still growing at 30-50% per year.

In order to build this sales and marketing engine, it requires a meaningful investment in lead generation, a sales organization that separates hunters from farmers and has a set of metrics that are tracked at least weekly. For ISV’s that are moving to a SaaS model, don’t co-mingle the SaaS and non-SaaS sales teams. Each sales team should be very focused on selling a single type of product or a single function. For example, having a SaaS team that focuses on selling only new SaaS deals, another is only doing renewals or up-selling.

Because products and markets are different, it is important to constantly be testing lead generation, pricing, packaging and sales processes in order to find the best one that works for your business. If something doesn’t work, stop doing it, and pivot to another idea. The best SaaS companies are always testing and trying to improve their revenue generation processes.

Optimize Cost of Goods Sold

Most SaaS executives are focused on their COGS and how best to optimize them. This is why many early SaaS firms use free open source software and Infrastructure-as-a-Service providers to build out their platforms, or outsource components of their business to partners to save money. The best way to optimize COGS is to reduce the number of people required to on-board, provision and operate your SaaS platform. It is better to automate as many of your processes as possible, which not only saves precious capital, but also can often improve the overall scalability of the business.

One the best examples of this type of automation is with the popular commercial SaaS storage solution DropBox [Check out this video]. They have built a service that is easy to use, self-provisioning and needs no human intervention. This is why they were able to on-board 40 million new customers during the last 12 months with a net increase of only 7 people across their entire company! This is where SaaS companies can become very profitable and grow very quickly.

Another area that can really impact COGS is related to the 30-day trials associated with most SaaS software. Without a scalable platform that has a sufficient level of automation, the launching, management, tear down and re-provisioning of resources will all be done by an ever growing team of professional services or IT professionals. Best practice is to leverage a multi-tenant platform and automate everything possible.

Strive for Independence

For ISV’s who are either transitioning to or launching a new SaaS offering, it is important to seriously consider keeping the new SaaS organization separate from the main business. I have seen many ‘shared service’ models where different groups share sales, operations, demand generation, services and even support and they experience a lot of challenges. The SaaS business model in many ways is unique and conflicts with most traditional software business practices.

For example, professional services in most software companies is a revenue-center and they are always looking for ways to generate additional projects and revenue. At a SaaS company, the professional services team is doing the opposite.  A SaaS services team is trying to minimize their level of involvement with the customer, and the less services involved in setting up a SaaS product, the better. This would be a difficult group to manage if you have both a revenue quota and are also trying to minimize revenue associated with SaaS accounts.

The other reason I often recommend creating an independent group for transitioning ISV’s is that the overall rate and pace of SaaS companies is quite different than traditional software firms. SaaS firms develop products more quickly, sales processes are faster, deployments are more rapid and this mismatch in speed creates a lot of stress when traditional ISVs try to adopt this rate and pace.

It is also important to continue the care and feeding of the core business and realize that is also a critical success factor. By allowing this type of co-existence you can move at the right rate and pace, while continuing to build and run your core business.

There are many other tips and tricks to starting your SaaS business.  Feel free to email me at kevin@montclairadvisors.com and I have some other materials that can be helpful for those who are new to the SaaS model.

As it turned out I was right about 50% of my predictions last year, so here’s my educated guesses for what is going to happen to the SaaS market in 2012:

#10  Oracle will buy Netsuite.

I know this isn’t much of a surprise since Larry Ellison owns approximately 65% of Netsuite, but with the RightNow acquisition, this type of move makes more sense as part of coordinated Cloud acquisition strategy.

#9  SaaS IPO window remains open.

There are a number of SaaS firms who have either filed, like Eloqua, or are seriously considering going public in 2012, like Workday, Dropbox, Box, and Guidewire.  This window can be opened even wider by successful IPO’s from companies like Yelp and Facebook.  The only problem is that there are over 100 companies who have already filed to go public in 2012, so it might be difficult for smaller SaaS firms to do their IPO.

#8. Master brands will continue to chase SaaS offerings.

IBM just purchased DemandTec and SAP bought SuccessFactors, while Oracle bought RightNow.  This is a big change from 2010 when most of these companies were not interested in the Cloud or SaaS.  All of these master brands have tried to build their own SaaS businesses, but I think they have now finally realized that SaaS is a business model, not just new technology.  The smart firms will keep their SaaS businesses and their core license businesses separate and not try and merge them.  Good luck.

#7. Workday will have a monster IPO.

There is no doubt that the 2012 IPO of Facebook will set all sorts of records but for enterprise software, I think Workday will be one of the biggest on record.  The company just took in $85 million in funding over the past few months, in what was termed an IPO preview round. Workday could raise as much as $500 million in an IPO, which would force the big ERP players to start building out their SaaS businesses as a defensive strategy at the bare minimum.

#6. SaaS starts to go global.

I was involved in an Oracle SaaS webinar a couple of weeks ago for an audience in Europe and the response was really impressive.  I initially thought that most of the registrants would be from the UK, the Netherlands, Germany and Scandinavia.  Actually there were attendees from almost every country in Europe.  I have also started to hear about strong SaaS interest in Australia, New Zealand, Brazil, Japan, China and many other countries.  2012 will just continue to build on the SaaS market’s growing global momentum.

#5. Salesforce continues to expand beyond CRM.

During 2011 Salesforce purchased several firms that added new capabilities to their platform including DimDim (collaboration), Radian6 (social analytics), Model Metrics (mobility) and then they bought Rypple in December, which launched them into the Human Capital market.  I predict that Salesforce will add several other HCM tuck-in acquisitions (JobScience, Jobvite), financial applications (FinancialForce, Zuora), or even supply chain management (Glovia OM, Kenandy).

#4. IT Management and Security SaaS offerings emerge.

Companies like CA have been successful in launching their new Nimsoft ITM SaaS offering during 2011, but there are also many other firms that are beginning to gain momentum with their new SaaS offerings as well. This is a very big market opportunity to replace existing legacy infrastructure and security offerings. Companies to watch include Service-Now, Trustwave, Splunk, PingIdentity and Proofpoint.

(Note: CA/Nimsoft and PingIdentity are Montclair Advisors clients)

#3. SaaS continues to be social.

With Jive going public during December 2011, they are just the most recent example of SaaS social applications gaining market acceptance.  Salesforce has been very successful with their Chatter and Radian6 offerings.  Independents like Yammer, SocialCast, Lithium and CentralDesktop will continue to see increased demand for their social/collaboration platforms.

#2. More big VC rounds for SaaS firms.

2012 will continue to see VC’s put a lot of money to work with leading SaaS companies.  We saw some major investments during 2011 including Box ($81 million), Dropbox ($250 million), HubSpot ($32 million), Marketo ($50 million), Workday ($85 million) and Zuora ($35 million).  This trend will continue in 2012 and companies will be putting a lot of money to work to build out their platforms and distribution capabilities.

#1. Storage is a major story for 2012.

As more and more data is stored in the Cloud, consumers and businesses are looking to all different types of on-line storage services.  During the year that Apple launched its iCloud small business and music storage service, we also saw major funding rounds for SaaS companies including Dropbox and Box.  We even saw a new IPO from Carbonite that provides a small business/consumer Cloud back-up service.  This is definitely a segment of the SaaS market to keep an eye on in 2012.

by Kevin Dobbs

Montclair Advisors, LLC

Now with all types of Software-as-a-Service alternatives in the market today, one tip that separates the winners from everyone else is the ability to create a product that is truly viral.  Granted several of these companies listed above offer consumer-oriented offerings, not traditional enterprise or corporate software there are examples like Yammer, were large organizations have very quickly adopted their products because the internal usage spreads like wildfire.  I profiled Yammer and they are definitely an organization that has built its sales and marketing model on being viral.

Here are some tips when thinking about incorporating viral adoption into your product and business strategy:

• Offer a free version of your software. For most SMB SaaS firms this is now table stakes to play in the game, but for firms like 37Signals, Freshbooks and Yammer have leveraged their free versions as a way to generate qualified paying customers.  Keep in mind this is not pursing a Freemium strategy (ask like a SmartRecruiters, Dropbox or Mint.com), it is just a way of generating a lot of new users, which then can be converted into paying customers.

• Clear pricing for your product.  By offering a high degree of transparency around pricing, software companies can take the pricing conversation off the table and allow their customers to make their own decisions before they ever contact you.  Here is an example of how 37Signals’ Basecamp product pricing looks on their website… it’s really easy.  This type of tiered pricing allows the customer to self-select the amount of software and service they need to get their job done, and it also enables the customer to start small and add more capability over time.

• Trials.  If you have a tiered pricing structure but don’t offer a free version of your software, then it is highly recommended to to have a free trial version (up to 30 days free).  This allows your prospects to experience your product first hand and explore its features and functionality.  If the product is relatively straightforward then you can let the prospects just play in their own sandbox.  On the other hand if you product is complex or requires some context-setting, then it would be a good idea to offer proctored assistance through assistance over the phone, webinars or even short videos to help them with individual features.  Intuit has really embraced the SaaS business model and offer many trails including this one for their Intuit Websites product.

• Intuitive interface. Really think through your interface and make it as easy to use as possible.  Most software users would prefer to do things themselves and your products interface is the key allowing them to do that.  Companies like Intuit do a lot of testing around how their products behave in real-life situations and they observe their customers actually using their products.  This helps with screen layout, workflows and even user roles for certain types of applications.

• Keep training to a minimum.  If you offer an intuitive product, then there is less of requirement for training but most applications require some type of overview or setup.  For anyone who uses an iPhone, iPad or MacBook Pro, Apple provides all types of training videos that are quite informative and help to get you started using their products.  Also providing a solid knowledgebase of information as well as a vibrant user community also helps to get customers up and running successfully with your product. Check out what Constant Contact’s Learning Center.

• Small consumable chunks.  We can learn a lot from many of the learning consumer Internet firms like Facebook, LinkedIn and even Zynga.  Especially gaming firms like Zynga (Farmville) have taught us to start small and then expose more functionality over time.  This allows for easier consumption of capabilities and viral adoption of solutions.

• Rapid Time to Value.  Even more complex systems need to be able to be ’stood up’ quickly.  We often recommend creating a generic version of the software that can be provisioned very rapidly and made available to the customer.  For an SMB type of product I would recommend <1 days to get a basic version and for complex enterprise applications, you should try to deploy a generic version <5 days.  Even though this version of the software will have its functionality and UI configured, data added, workflows tailored, it is important to give the customer something they can start using as close to immediately as possible.  This is also a good idea from a revenue perspective as well because you can start to charge once your customers start using your systems.

Company:            Yammer

Started:                2007

Located:               San Francisco, California

Geography:          North America

Market:                Enterprise Microblogging Platform

Products:            Yammer Desktop, Yammer on your Mobile Device, and Yammer Plug-Ins

Key Customers:  Deloitte, AMD, AAA of Northern California, Nevada and Utah, SMG, Cargill, Thomson Reuters, Sungard, Hill & Knowlton and SunCorp.

Website:               Yammer

Blog:                    Yammer Blog

Twitter:                @Yammer

Recent News:

Yammer is Selected as an MIT Sloan CIO Symposium Innovation Showcase Finalist

Fortune 500 Companies Flock to Yammer

Yammer Secures $10 Million in Series B Funding from Emergence Capital and Previous Investors

I asked David Sacks, Yammer’s Founder, CEO and Chairman of the Board few questions about his business and his view of the SaaS market in 2010.

Did you start out as a Software-as-a-Service company?

Yes, we did start out as a SaaS company. Our company was incubated inside of Geni, which develops family tree software. I was also involved with the consumer Internet with my experience starting PayPal. As both companies scaled, I found it was hard to keep tabs on what everyone was doing, and Yammer was developed to address this challenge. We found that microblogging was a great way to keep current on the status of important projects, individual profiles and information feeds inside of an enterprise.

Then in 2008, we spun out Yammer and that same year won the TechCrunch 50’s Best in Show award.

Initially we were targeting small and medium sized businesses but we are now seeing that Yammer has strong appeal for large enterprises like AAA, AMD, Cargill, Cisco, Deloitte, and Thomson Reuters.

Yammer is very viral because it was very easy for anyone to sign-up, confirm their company’s email address and start using the system. You don’t need to wait for an IT administrator to set up Yammer and you can quickly invite your work colleagues, with the same company email domain, to join in and begin collaborating with you.

When a company wants to claim the network being used by it’s employees, they pay a nominal subscription fee, and then we provide a set of administrative tools that allow them to manage upgrades, security, compliance, deliver premium support, and customize their site.

Part of our initial business model was to base Yammer on the consumer model of software, but make it enterprise-class. We wanted to remove the traditional friction from our software sales process by making our product as easy to use as Facebook.

Why do your customers buy from Yammer?

Our customers never have to pay or upgrade our software unless their employees are using it. This is very attractive, when you compare it to the traditional software selection process where you have to vet vendors, choose one, negotiate the contract, implement the product, pay a lot of money and then no one uses it. Yammer is de-risking the traditional enterprise software value proposition. Employees are valuing it because they use it.

When large companies see thousands of employees using Yammer what do they do? They can do three things - wait and see what happens, shut it down or buy it and we are finding the vast majority of companies are buying Yammer because their employees are being productive and want to collaborate using the software.Our customers also really like our administrative tools for e-discovery, security, directory integration, and network administration.

“If Facebook and Twitter had a baby, it would be Yammer.”

We are like Twitter because we offer a real-time feed of information; you can follow any one, join groups and sort information feeds by hash tags. We are like Facebook because there is no 140-character limit, you can have attachments, threaded replies and we offer a variety of enterprise management tools.

Yammer is a like a virtual office where workers can feel more connected to each other, especially remote workers. We act like the traditional company water cooler for these distributed organizations. As workforces become more mobile, Yammer just make a lot of sense for enterprise collaboration. Today we only offer Yammer in English but we have noticed that there are an increasing number of new customers who are signing up outside of North America. In the near future we will be supporting multiple languages in addition to English.

Customers also like our value-based pricing model. We charge between $3 and $5 per seat per month, depending on the level of support and administrative tools. We also provide volume discounts for our larger customers. This is much more cost attractive than purchasing Chatter from Salesforce.com for $15 per seat, which is quite expensive and most employees don’t want to communicate through the company’s corporate CRM system. Our very fast viral Freemium approach appears to be working, because since we have been live for only the last 18 months we now have over 1 million seats today.

What do you see as the key trend emerging in the SaaS industry?

The first trend is the consumerization of enterprise software; Yammer is a great example of this trend. Real innovation in the technology space over the past 10 years has been on the consumer-side of the software market with products like Facebook and Twitter. At Yammer we want to take these learnings back into the enterprise software world. When I was at PayPal, we were very successful using the Freemium model to promote adoption. This type of approach to software can definitely result in the overall democratization of enterprise software. SaaS is the first step, when the delivery model changed, then there were no upfront costs and the risk is dramatically lower. Using techniques developed by consumer software firms, more and different kinds of buyers can now access enterprise-class software.

The second trend we see is that enterprise software products will be designed more for the end-user than power users or administrators. A good example is how Facebook and Twitter don’t do every possible feature or function and they don’t clutter the user’s screen. This simplified approach to software allow causal users to be more engaged with their products and other users. These types of causal use software products will also appeal to younger employees who have used Facebook and LinkedIn and expect their enterprise software products to be that easy to use.

Social Networking is also a major trend we are seeing. We started thinking about this over the last couple of years, since 2007. Now it seems so obvious, that social networking would grow into an unstoppable trend. The ability to connect workers, to leverage expertise and content all in real-time, which allows everyone to work smarter, just makes a lot of sense. I still think that there is confusion about Enterprise Social Networking, for instance Salesforce sees it as a CRM newsfeed, and we see it as enterprise real-time communication. Eventually we see Enterprise Social Networking replacing corporate email and instant messaging.

What is your outlook for 2010?

In January we raised $10M, led by Emergence, that  provided capital to allow us to expand our team. Our investors liked the fact that we have built a very cost effective business, based on our viral distribution model. Our Q1 sales were greater than all of our sales for last year combined.

The software industry is realizing that Enterprise Collaboration is going to be a huge space. Most software companies will want to get into this market because every company will want one of these collaboration platforms to deploy. The only problem is that most enterprise software firms looks at these types of tools backwards, because they already have multiple different product lines, then they will need to stuff it through their sales channel. At Yammer we have already solved this distribution channel problem and we can actually open up our channel to these companies as a Distribution as a Service model.

We continue to sign up a number of large customers, and this type of adoption makes other large companies comfortable using our technology. Things look great and our traction is accelerating.

The broader SaaS market (I would include PaaS and Cloud Computing) have been really interesting this year and here are some of the notable news items that have caught my attention over the past couple of months:

Mergers & Acqusitions

SuccessFactors buys CubeTree for $50M… Interesting move into the collaboration space

IBM buys CastIron … Nice compliment to their Cloud Infrastructure offerings.  Is Boomi next?

… then IBM buys CoreMetrics.

Salesforce.com buys JigSaw for $142M! … Surprised that they would pay up for a content company.

CA buys Nimsoft for $350M … gets into the SaaS infrastructure management market.  Good company.

SAP buys Sybase for $5.8B …  not sure about this one?  A diversion to deflect attention away from BBD?

RedPrairie buys SmartTurn … traditional SCM provider begins their move to SaaS.

VMWare looking at EngineYard … interesting since Amazon funded this Ruby-on-Rails PaaS startup.

Fundings & IPO’s

Marketing Automation: Marketo raises $10M Series D, led by Mayfield.

Enterprise Collaboration: Yammer raises $10M Series B, led by Emergence Capital.

Financial Analytics:  Host Analytics raises $15M Series C, led by Next World Capital.

Cloud Business Intelligence:  Cloud9 Analytics raises $8M Series C, led by Mayfield.

Recent SaaS/Cloud IPO’s include Convio, SPS Commerce and Financial Engines.

New Products and Launches

Broadvision launches Clearvale … Ning for the enterprise.

Plateau launches PaaS platform for Talent Management

Mercer partners with PeopleClick Authoria, first combination of HR consulting content with Talent Management technology platform

VMware and Force.com partner, launch VMForce.

Lawson launches ERP Cloud offering on Amazon AWS … too little, too late?

Recently Profiled SaaS Companies by Montclair Advisors

Birst, CentralDesktop, Cloud9 Analytics, GoodData, Marketo, Netsuite and WOLF Frameworks.

There are definitely a lot going on in the SaaS and Cloud Computing markets and we will continue to cover newsworthy events and profile leading players throughout 2010.

Since everyone is interested in SaaS funding and valuations I thought it would be helpful to tell you about an interesting Cloud Computing investor panel I attended at the recent All About the Cloud conference in SF. The session was moderated by Jason Green from Emergence Capital Partners and was joined by Gary Hromadko from Crosslink Capital, Mark McNay from William Blair and Evangelos Simoudis from Trident Capital.

So what did they have to say?

The market has finally changed for the better

2009 was all about survival and the venture community did less than half the investments than in a typical year.

This year is now about growing again and current investments are more focused on companies that have weathered the economic downturn. Their investments are focused on changing the slope of these types of company’s growth curves, by concentrating more on sales and marketing.

SaaS and Cloud companies are leading the way

Consumers have been driving the adoption of easier to use Cloud-based solutions like eBay, iTunes, Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn. They are viral and can reach critical mass very quickly because there are low barriers to adoption.

With SaaS, the recession has really pushed the advantages of a subscription business model and moving from CapEx to OpEx software investments. It’s like leasing your car rather than buying it.

Lean start-ups are definitely in. Almost all early stage software investments in 2009-10 are Cloud-based because it takes a fair amount of capital to fund SaaS firms and it takes a long time for them to reach profitability. One interesting comment was that later stage on-premise companies are now being asked about what their SaaS/Cloud strategy is for the future, because without it, they may find funding might be difficult.

What the VC’s are looking for

SaaS 1.0 focused on a company’s income statement, expenses and cash flows than GAAP reported financials. One important measurement is a company’s incremental contribution margins (gross margins), which is critical for SaaS. Companies needed to balance capital efficiency with building a business that can scale.

Investors are looking for unique business processes that can only be built or automated through SaaS or the Cloud. Emergence latest investments are pure Cloud-based companies that have viral qualities like YouSendit, the files sharing company and Yammer and the enterprise micro-blogging firm, both of these companies are viral enterprise solutions. Yammer has more than 70,000 customers with at least 1 user and is signing up between 7-10,000 users a month and 10% are turning into paying customers. Crosslink invested in Carbonite, a backup and recovery company, has high margins and is the only other independent player in the category with Mozy, who is owned by EMC. They felt that scarcity of competitors and their ability to manage Customer Acquisition Costs were important in establishing the company’s value.

The panelists also said they are looking for companies that have a rigorous focus on metrics like Customer Lifetime Value and Customer Acquisition Costs. In fact CAC appears to drive business value because it has a lot to do with capital efficiency and the company’s ability to grow their business.

Exits, IPO’s and Valuations

Economy has recovered and CEO’s are ready to start taking on more risk, and it’s a real change in psychology because we are at the beginning of a macro trend that will last more than 10 years.

This is evident by more than 100 M&A transactions last quarter including high profile deals like IBM buying CastIron, Salesforce buying Jigsaw for $142M, Successfactors buying CubeTree for $50M. The current environment is right for deals, especially as SaaS is gaining enterprise momentum with recent deals like SuccessFactors’ mega deal with Walmart for 1.6M users. Transactions like Jigsaw, CubeTree, and CA’s purchase of 3Tera and Nimsoft for $350M all indicate a return to a healthy M&A atmosphere, that will probably last for the next 12-18 months.

Oracle and SAP won’t be aggressive on the M&A front until they come to the realization that they can’t build Cloud solutions internally. Because many SaaS companies have now crossed the $25-30M in recurring revenues threshold, these firms may become quite attractive to these larger ISV’s looking to make the move to the SaaS business model.

But these acquirers don’t want to take on the burn associated with many start-ups so it will be important to stay close to breakeven and you may have to sacrifice growth for profitability. Since the access to capital is still tight, start-ups will have to try and collect cash upfront and continue to tune their business models to improve cash flows.

Companies that seem to own a category have perceived scarcity value which will result in a premium on any transaction, especially if they are perceived to own a segment franchise. VC’s and acquirers are looking for a minimum of 40% CAGR to get a premium valuation.

On the other side of the liquidity front, the IPO window for SaaS companies is beginning to open up and firms like SolarWinds and LogMeIn have now been joined by SPS Commerce and Convio. At least before the recent stock market downturn, these companies had traded up by 15% since their IPOs.

The panel seemed to believe that the market is definitely getting better and that is good news for SaaS and Cloud Computing companies looking for funding or an exit!